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April 26, 2005


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Thanks in advance. Just because human nature must be understood doesn't mean that culture has no effect.

I love Thomas Sowell. The best part about Walter Williams doing a sub for Rush Limbaugh on the radio is that he will nearly always squeeze in a half hour chat with Thomas Sowell. It's always a pleasure listening to him as well as reading.

Last time he was on the radio with Walter, he was talking about some fascinating history - since I missed the beginning I didn't realize that it very likely comes from this new book. I'm going to have to go out and buy it now. Thanks for the heads up Sissy!

My guess is it's Scots-Irish culture he's talking about. Perhaps mainly Irish since the potato famine sent nearly 500,000 Irish immigrants to the U.S. in the 1840s (though how many of those made it to the South, I'm not sure).

I'll have to read the book now.

Though it's been maligned as racist, Cracker Culture, by Grady McWhiney (a TCU prof, if I remember correctly) outlines many of the good-bad traits we Southerners got from the Celt descendants (including many Englishmen) that settled in the South.

The influence of the native tribes who were pushed into Oklahoma shouldn't be overlooked either. I guess I'll have to read the book to find out if Sowell takes that into consideration.

See "Born Fighting : How the Scots-Irish Shaped America" by James Webb. Webb has a much more positive spin on that culture, which originated in the Borders, the region where Scotland and England come together. It was transferred to Northern Ireland/Ulster after Cromwell, and from there to the American colonies in the early 1700s.

With the good coastal and Piedmont land already taken, they made their way inland up into the mountains and formed the Appalachian subculture.

That is, of course, a gross over-simplification.

Then there's Arthur Herman's How the Scots Invented the Modern World, whose thesis is quite the opposite. Hmmm.

Well, I would say that it's important to note that racism did create the conditions that allowed "black rednecks" to become isolated in ghettoes and from mainstream culture. I find myself wondering if whites with Confederate-flag bumper stickers and blacks with ultra-nationalist tendencies aren't, indeed, two sides of the same coin.

Interesting question. Maybe there will be some answers in Sowell's book.

See the Scots-Irish portion of historian David Hackett Fischer's monumental Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America, which supports Dr. Sowell's thesis. My own heritage is Southern white redneck, but today I can proudly say, "I'm a Sowell man."

Thanks so much, Leo.

The similarities in music are certainly striking. Listen to an "old time" fiddle tune from Appalachia and then listen to Irish or Scottish fiddle music.

The new phenomenon, though is Green Rednecks. We are black and white and are paying a little more attention to the land before it vanishes.

Andy Greene
Green Living Tips for Rednecks

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