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January 15, 2005


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Does it strike anyone as odd that the most illiberal US administration in recent history is bringing liberal, secular democracy to Iraq? That a President who wants to tear down the wall between church and state in this country is working hard to erect that very same wall elsewhere?

What are you talking about, sir? No one's trying to tear down any wall between church and state. I recommend you go back and read The establishment clause, which begins "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ." As Wikipedia explains, "Contrary to popular belief, the phrase 'separation of church and state' appears in no founding American document."

At the same time, I do admire your appreciation that the administration is taking liberal, secular democracy to Iraq.

Sisu tells it like it is. Thank you Sisu.

First... I have a feeling Tiny works hard at looking purrfectly beautiful - to aid in the campaign for food. *grin*

Second... great answer to heraldblog. I am continually amazed at how many people are afraid of Christians (since it doesn't seem to apply to any other religion that I've noticed) to the point where they lose perspective and sometimes rationality - not to mention forgetting anything they studied about the constitution.

Third... if Iraq is as lucky as we have been - their citizens will be arguing about these types of trivialities in about 100 years too. Let's hope so for their sake!

There is something about a ballot box that inspires -- if not martyrdom, hopefully -- at least patriotism.

After a decade of morose grousing I was personally reinspired by the anti-Marcos elections in the Philipines back in the 1980s. Specifically by a photo of a patriot (no other word applies) clasping on to a ballot box with both arms while one soldier clubbed him and another tried to take the box away for some pro-Marcos tampering. People chained themselves to ballot boxes in that election and it turned the tide.

The political history of the Philipines hasn't been spotless since then, but no one can argue it hasn't substantially improved. I am hoping for the same result in Iraq.

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